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Billy Meier 260th Contact – Tuesday, February 3, 1998, 10:27 PM Print E-mail
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260th Contact


Ptaah:
1. Eduard, be greeted, my friend.
2. It is a pleasure for me to see you healthy.

Billy:
The pleasure is all mine. Be welcomed, and sit down, yes! It’s already been a rather long time since your last visit, and a lot of things have arisen since then, especially in those circles that have determined the year 2012 to be the year of the Third World War or the end of the world, even the sects, esoteric ones, ufologists, and pseudo scientists of all kinds, including large parts of the astrologers and “crop circle experts” and so on.


Ptaah:
3. These things are very well-known to me because we track them continuously.
4. But usually, it only concerns sectarian and delusion-believing nonsense, which is why we shouldn’t talk about these things any further.
5. But what concerns the truth of the upcoming events, we should only talk about it in such a way that nothing becomes publicly known about it.
6. We want to avoid any panic and don’t want to provoke any more delusions and hallucinations than what are already happening through the senselessness of the irresponsible, terrestrial alarmists.

Billy:
With that, you are absolutely right, of course – moreover, I also didn’t have in mind taking in the idiotic alarmists and scaremongers of these irresponsible ones, for I think that there is already enough anxiety among the people of this Earth. But still, it’s a fact that the crazy preachers of the end of the world are experiencing an economic boom just this year, especially since 1998 is a threefold year that, when divided by 3, yields 666, which, in turn, is contained in the number 1998 three times. This, of course, gives occasion for the doomsday prophets and sectarians, etc. to bring everything negative and bad down from the heavens or up from the imaginary hell. And the fact that the reputed year 2000 stands right before the door, this still contributes a lot to the gloom. And especially in this respect, no one talks about or no one has a clue that our calendar isn’t right at all and that the year 2000 is long over, and indeed, since the year 1996, or rather since 1993, depending on which historically authoritative beginning of the Christian Era is taken, whereby according to my calculation, the year 1996 must have actually been the year A.D. 2000.

Ptaah:
7. With that, you’re not wrong, in terms of the aforementioned things.
8. Nevertheless, we really should speak no more of this because as I assess the situation, you want our conversation to count as official.
9. And according to your stack of notes, you also have many questions.

Billy:
I have these, indeed. In addition, I have here the handbook of our group, which we should plow through if you have enough time. There are also articles here that I would like to submit to you, in order to hear your opinions about them.

Ptaah:
10. Today, I have a little more time than usual, but should this not be enough, then I’ll visit you again within the next few days.
11. I think this will be necessary anyways, for as I see, the handbook is very extensive, so it would probably be better if I would transmit it into my aircraft during our conversation, in order to work on it later in peace, after which I can then give you the necessary information within in the next few days, which we will then probably have to discuss.
12. Certain things also fall into Quetzal’s area, so it would probably be a good idea if I would get in touch with him.

Billy:
Of course, that would probably be a good thing.

Ptaah:
13. Then leave me the material now, so that I can transmit it with this device here.

Billy:
Please. – We can still talk about these things, right?

Ptaah:
14. Of course. –
15. Ask your questions that you’ve noted.

Billy:
Thanks. – – Here – Florena, with her last visit from you, has let me focus on the fact that presumably in next October, with the new elections, the Codex shall become null and void, which I naturally submitted to the whole group. However, it probably isn’t the case that the entire and, indeed, quite extensive Codex is repealed, right? Unfortunately, Florena couldn’t explain anything more about it because you apparently didn’t inform her sufficiently.

Ptaah:
16. That’s right.
17. For my part, I only explained to her that with the new elections, a determining part of the Codex will become void if the progressive interests of the entire group continue to develop as they have until now.
18. The determining part of the Codex only has reference to the point system, which would have led, at most, to irrevocable, negative measures if the highest score had been achieved.
19. All other matters of the Codex remain and cannot be removed, i.e. cannot be eliminated or even canceled, until the time has come for it, which is shortly forthcoming, however.

Billy:
I thought so; then right now, only the Codex point system is fading away. – I also would’ve been surprised if it had been otherwise. Nevertheless, I first thought of this later, after I had already given the news to the group. But now, a misunderstanding has probably arisen from it, which I must correct at the next group meeting. – Okay, then here’s another question, but one that was already answered before. Nevertheless, it turns out that H. M. still largely appears in the UFO news, etc., as well as at UFO Congresses, and maintains, together with his wife and others, that he has contact with extraterrestrials and has been on the Moon.

Ptaah:
20. His remarks are based on untruthful and deceitful claims.
21. He never had contact with any extraterrestrial intelligences.
22. His photographs are based on a fraud that was accomplished with small, cardboard models.

Billy:
The answer is clear. – Then here: “flowers of idiocy.” Ah yes, we already talked about that. The issue has reference to the turn of the millennium and all the esoteric, religious, sectarian, and astrological idiocy, as well as the machinations of the doomsayers, etc. Then I have a question here regarding Aroona: how should we assess the child today, in terms of the capacity for group membership, if this should be raised?

Ptaah:
23. In regards to this, unfortunately, there are still no changes to be recognized in such a way that would enable such a step.
24. Her behavior has not yet changed so decisively that an undertaking of this kind could be considered.
25. And what is very regrettable is that Silvano cannot change what is necessary because he doesn’t have the necessary factors for guiding and educating, which he would need most urgently.

Billy:
Unfortunately – what else should one say? – This evening, someone asked me about a certain Carla Faye Tucker, who murdered two people with a pickaxe 14 1/2 years ago in Texas/USA while intoxicated with drugs and who, sentenced to death, should now be executed, even on the 3rd of February, 1998. It seems that the death sentence is, in fact, enforced today. I find it simply unbelievable, how inhumane all those Americans are, who advocate the death penalty or carry it out.

Ptaah:
26. We’ve talked about this many times before, even about the death penalty in America and also in other countries on the Earth.
27. You are right with that; even the advocacy of the death penalty is contemptuous toward life and inhumane, and suffering from this evil are all those pathetic creatures that are only human by name and that tolerate, endorse, or exercise this perverse form of punishment.
28. In the truest sense of the word, they are inhumane and life-despising murderers, in many cases worse than the actual delinquents who consciously or unconsciously made or make themselves guilty of murder because in every single case, both their consciousnesses as well as their psyches were or are impaired in some way in their functions.
29. Therefore, they need help and not vindictive, autocratically judicial desire in order to get on the right path and achieve the right, healthy, positive, life-affirming, and evolutionary attitude.
30. However, this can only be through a fulfillment of guidelines, which must take place at a suitable place of fulfillment of guidelines, and indeed, usually within a lifespan, in the truest sense of the word, if justifiable, extenuating circumstances don’t justify a shorter time, which is to be strictly clarified, however.
31. But such largely requires other laws and handlings of laws than what are present in the so-called civilized countries, where inhumane crimes of all kinds are handled and judged far too lackadaisically and negligently, by what means serious criminals or notorious criminals, etc. can commit new crimes and criminal acts over and over again once they are returned to freedom, without it being absolutely guaranteed that their fallible actions will never be repeated.

Billy:
You speak my mind and the minds of many others. When one thinks of those who are responsible for the jails, prisons, as well as psychiatric hospitals, who repeatedly release prisoners or send prisoners on leave, who have, for example, raped and maybe even killed children or women, or else those who have otherwise committed serious crimes, one must ask himself: from where do these responsible persons get their autonomy to determine whether such criminals or in any way serious criminals can be released or be sent on leave, who then commit new, serious crimes? Thus, these serious crimes can never be contained or even eliminated, due to the incorrect humaneness of such responsible persons.

Ptaah:
32. That is actually so, because the law executives are too lax and too falsely humane, which is why they give far too minor penalties and completely disregard the necessary security.
33. A lifelong sentence should not be restricted to a short term, such as 15 or 25 years, etc., but should actually equal the name, even lifelong.
34. And if I watch, as the law judges on Earth touch the criminals and felonious ones, so to speak, with velvet gloves, as you once said, then it makes me nauseated.

Billy:
That also applies to murderous machinations where alcohol is involved. This substance still counts today, at least in the Christian-oriented countries, as a luxury and not as a narcotic, which is actually what it is for many people. Therefore, a vehicle driver who is under the influence of alcohol is still excused even when he knocks down and kills one or even several people because drunk driving is still considered a minor offense, and in cases of deadly accidents, it is very often only punished with small fines, if at all.

Ptaah:
35. This evil is also well-known to me.
36. Even your brother, Karl, was killed by a drunk teenage driver, for which this only received a very small fine.

Billy:
Exactly. – But now, I have here another question: Anti-gravity – Semjase once told me that both heat and cold are connected with it.

Ptaah:
37. That is quite right, but not to be regarded as general.
38. Heat and cold play a role only in the way that through these, electric energy, i.e. electromagnetic energy, is produced, from which then, among other things, anti-gravity arises through certain processes.

Billy:
Can or may you explain that in more detail?

Ptaah:
39. No, for the time still isn’t ripe for that.
40. It would be too dangerous for the people and their applications of technology if they already fully mastered anti-gravity.
41. Already, the researches relating to this of the Earth people and their resulting applications of anti-gravity are heading towards them seizing world power for themselves.
42. There are already extensive experiments in this regard, whereby the scientists in the USA can report authoritative successes.
43. Unfortunately, I have to say this, for the Americans are absolutely determined to be seen as the first world power and to seize the supremacy for themselves, whereby they always run the risk of triggering a global crisis that can ultimately end in a World War, if they don’t order a stop to their megalomania and their greed for power.

Billy:
With this, do you also speak of the matter in the Gulf region, i.e. of Iraq and the dictator Saddam Hussein, who is supposed to be attacked at some time by the USA?

Ptaah:
44. That’s also part of it.

Billy:
In addition, the triggering of world crises and World War III can also threaten from other nations, which should certainly be said.

Ptaah:
45. That is naturally right, for there are many powerful figures on Earth, and they will also be here in the future, who stir up dangers as well as death and destruction for the Earth people, all other life, and for the planets.

Billy:
It would be foolish to doubt this. But unfortunately, precisely in this regard, it must be mentioned once again and must be led into the field that in this connection, the Americans, like in so many things, are simply leaders. One must only think of the HAARP project, through which even worse consequences can appear than what is the case with the effects of the atomic bomb and commercial nuclear use. All the bad and terrible things that arose from this also weren’t anticipated by the Americans or were simply denied in some way, which they still do today, and indeed, even with many other things. I have written an article about the HAARP project, which we have published in Bulletin No. 13, January 1998, and this article that has already been translated into English will be distributed on the 5th of February, 1998 by Philip McAiney in Brussels at the European Parliament Conference.

 




Ptaah:
46. This naturally won’t bear much fruit because with certainty, there are the most diverse elements, i.e. scientists and military personnel and so on, who deny the true facts and try to disprove everything, as is usual in such cases.

Billy:
That is certainly anticipated, but still, we want to do something in this matter. But now, it would please me if you could read or at least browse through my article here.

Ptaah:
47. Gladly. –
48. Thanks.

Ptaah:
49. I find the stance to be good and correct, but as I said, the leaders and supporters of the project will deny everything or at least a lot, or else they’ll simply accuse it as being the wrong stance.

Billy:
One must probably count on it, as it is always like that in such cases. But now, I have something else here, namely a report of a certain Parvis Nazem from Iran. You can likewise read the whole thing. My commentary – we also published everything in Bulletin No. 13 – I wrote this in accordance with the data provided by Florena, whom I interviewed for this report. Here you go; these two pages are the product of the whole thing.

Ptaah:
50. Thanks.

Ptaah:
51. Florena reported to me about your questions, so I have also endeavored to get closer to these concerns, and I can say the following:
52. At that same time, in the aforementioned area, observations were actually being carried out by several aircraft of extraterrestrial origin, namely by members of an Earth-foreign race that stands in no relation to us.
53. According to our investigations, however, they didn’t interfere in any events; rather, they behaved passively.
54. At the same time, however, the Iraqis released poisonous gases into different military positions of the Iranians through rear front fighters, which caused hallucinatory effects and dangerous long-term consequences under certain circumstances, but both the Iraqis as well as the Iranians retain silence over this.
55. The poisonous gases attack, among other things, the internal organs of the body and alter the genetic information factors, resulting in mutations and other disturbances.
56. Unfortunately, this also happened during the Gulf War, for also there, rear front fighters secretly worked in the same way as in Iran, through which the drawn-in multinational fighters were affected, especially Americans, who were severely harmed health-wise.
57. These poisonous gases, however, were further introduced in and behind the ranks of the attackers by rockets and artillery shells, by what means many people were contaminated.
58. Then, as a result of those who were contaminated later performing acts of procreation, the descendants became mutilated during the development period in the womb and came into the world as heavily deformed beings. –
59. Now, in terms of this strange story that Parviz Nazem tells, it is to be accepted that he was attacked by the hallucinatory gases of the Iraqis and, accordingly, actually had hallucinatory experiences and shock trauma; consequently, he considered everything as real, as you described in your commentary.

Billy:
Thanks. Then here’s the next question. In the 238th Contact on 5/18/1991, we talked about the dangers of microwaves (see Pleiadian/Plejaren Contact Reports, Block 6, page 325 et seq.). Concerning this, I would like to read aloud the conversation that we had about it:

Billy:
You once told me that microwaves are very dangerous, which is why one shouldn’t cook with them, etc.…

You then explained the following:

Ptaah:
… but now, regarding microwaves, I’ll be happy to explain to you briefly that these are extremely dangerous for humans; they not only destroy the psyche of humans and animals and the life of plants in severe cases, but they also impair, such as in humans, their entire brain functions up to brain damage, whereby also cancer can appear, which is also already the case with the Earth people. Regarding the aluminum particle, it is to be said that aluminum particles taken in by humans are hazardous to them because they release, among other factors, the terrible Alzheimer’s disease. In terms of cancer, it is to be said that in the future, the microwave will increasingly appear as its cause, for microwaves are, unfortunately, becoming more and more heedlessly as well as irresponsibly used for all kinds of purposes. Cooking with microwaves destroys the vitamins and, at the same time, is to be specifically described as a great evil, this along with many other misuses. Even the eyesight of humans and animals is endangered by microwaves, and in the specific case, the cataract is to be mentioned, which can be caused by microwaves more and more. Different types of cancer, as I said, increasingly have microwaves as their cause, but in addition, simple and non-cancer-conditioned damages to cells will appear more frequently and cause many other evils. Through microwaves, it frequently occurs that the fruit of pregnant women is harmed or even destroyed and becomes missing, and in this connection, the unknowing doctors aren’t able to determine the origin of this because they simply lack the necessary apparatuses and tools as well as the necessary knowledge. But that’s not enough, for the woman’s fertility is also endangered by the waves because it is very easily destroyed by these waves, as it is also the case that the man is robbed of his procreative power. On certain worlds that are well-known to us, it is common with the humans that women and men can be sterilized by microwaves, in order to counteract an overpopulation of the planets by the humans.

Billy:
But I, for example, was advantageously subjected to microwave treatment, in order to get rid of nearly intolerable pains, to which I had fallen due to my knee osteoarthritis.

Then, you said the following:

Ptaah:
Of course, because microwaves can, with reason, also have curative and progressive purposes and application possibilities, when they are brought to application with intellect and reason. On Earth, these things and the concerns about microwaves are not yet so well known by the people and especially by the scientists and researchers, etc. that they would be capable of fully handling these forces, which is why at present, and for the upcoming future, they cause more harm than successes achieved in the positive.

I then asked you further (241st Contact of 2/3/1992, see page 70 et seq.):

Billy:
Since we’re already talking about food: how does it actually behave in relation to food that is cooked with microwaves? Is there actually a certain danger for the person, apart from the harmfulness of the waves themselves on the human organism, etc.? …

Then, you gave me the following answer, which seems to contradict itself with your prior statements, since you said that cooking with microwaves is harmful. I assume that you probably expressed yourself too imprecisely for us Earth folk, which is why we probably misunderstand something. You said:

Ptaah:
The use of microwaves for the preparation of food is safe, as a rule, if your question relates to the microwaves’ influence on the food and its consumption. The person can quite safely eat microwave-prepared foods. Only the microwaves themselves are dangerous, if the person is hit by these. Many microwave ovens shield the microwaves in no way, whereby humans – and even animals and plants – are hit by these and are damaged health-wise. Thus, the danger for humans, animals, and plants lies in the microwave radiation itself, which can lead to very harmful effects on all living organisms – apart from the fact that, for example, microwaves applied medically in the right dosage can very well be beneficial to health.

First, you said that using microwaves to cook is harmful, but here, you said that cooking with these waves is not harmful. How should we understand this now?

Ptaah:
60. It seems that I did, indeed, express myself unclearly at that time.
61. The facts are as follows:
62. Cooking with microwaves is actually extremely dangerous, but only in the sense when the food comes into direct contact with the microwaves, so thus, if the food is directly irradiated with microwaves.
63. Once this happens, transformation processes, which it also always concerns, take place in the food, through which partially poisonous and hazardous substances emerge, through which humans can be harmed in many different ways and, in fact, also are harmed, as I must rightly say.
64. Due to the direct irradiation of food with microwaves, the cooking item succumbs to a transformation, through which health-hazardous substances develop.
65. But otherwise, this isn’t the case, and cooking with microwaves is totally harmless, if the ovens are constructed in such a way that they are only heated up by the microwaves, and indeed, from the outside; consequently, no waves can reach into the actual cooking item.
66. So for this, completely closed cooking containers are necessary, which don’t allow microwaves into the interior and into the cooking item.
67. The microwave oven itself must, of course, also be constructed in such a way that no waves can penetrate out of it, so that the surroundings or humans aren’t encountered by them. –
68. And since I’m already clarifying these issues, it would be appropriate that this is also done in relation to Alzheimer’s disease, so that it isn’t supposed that microwave radiation is the basic cause of this evil.
69. It is certainly true that microwaves are only a small influencing factor in relation to Alzheimer’s disease, as this is also the case with aluminum particles.
70. Both are not direct causes or producers of the disease but merely factors that are contributory, under certain conditions, with the emergence of Alzheimer’s disease.
71. With that, the facts should now actually be clear.

Billy:
Thanks; that really should be without misunderstanding. – Here, I now have a small article from Blick, dated 10/27/1997, with the title:

On Abortion: Fetuses Feel the Pain

London - Do the unborn feel pains during abortions? On this controversial issue, British medical experts have now given a clear answer: Yes, starting from the 6th month!
The Association of British Gynecologists has, for the first time, issued guidelines: With an abortion, an anesthetic should be used, starting from the 24th week of pregnancy. It should be administered several hours before surgery, in order to ensure that the fetus really won’t feel anything more. Still ten years ago, experts believed that newborns couldn’t even feel any pains. According to recent studies, they came to the conclusion that the nervous system is so far developed by the 26th week that the fetus feels pains.

Ptaah:
72. This assertion doesn’t correspond to the truth because our medical cognition indicates that a fetus is already so far developed by the 12th week or by the 3rd month that its developing nervous system receives pain impulses; consequently, the fetus is already sensitive to pain at this age.

Billy:
And what about the beginning heartbeat of a newly conceived human – when does the actual heart function begin? As a doctor of your various medical subjects, so I think, you surely also know about this.

Ptaah:
73. Of course.
74. The time of the beginning heart activity coincides with the entrance of the spirit of the newly conceived human being, so on the 21st day after conception.
75. For the terrestrial medical scientists, however, this should be yet another fact that they first have to fathom.
76. Although efforts in relation to this have already been running for quite some time, the necessary cognition is still missing, which is also connected with the fact that also the apparatus-related conditions that are necessary for this still leave very much to be desired.

Billy:
Asthar Sheran, i.e. Aruseak or Atar Seran and whatever else this criminal called himself, was eliminated in the DAL Universe during a serious battle, as he was attacking a planet or something like that, as you’ve explained. Now, the question arose as to whether he is now incarnated again; do you know something about this?

Ptaah:
77. What you say is correct, but whether he is now reincarnated should be answered with a “no,” for in the regions where he lost his life, no overpopulation problems prevail on the planet; therefore, it will still take a very long time before he will be arranged into a reincarnation.
78. To our knowledge, three hundred years will pass, when I make my statements in accordance with the earthly calendar.

Billy:
So other time relationships prevail there, whereby I have just alluded to the duration of a year.

Ptaah:
79. That planet – in whose outer space Asthar Sheran lost his life and in whose otherworldly space, in accordance with the valid creative regularities, his spirit form as well as entire consciousness block fixed themselves – has an orbital period around the central star that corresponds to 486 days, according to the earthly standard.
80. Moreover, a day has 27 hours and a little more than 36 minutes, measured by an earthly hour.

Billy:
I actually didn’t want to know that so precisely, but in any case, dear thanks for your remarks. – Here, I have another question, which I actually already answered, however, in Bulletin No. 12 from December of 1997, because it was faxed to me as a reader’s question for the bulletin. Nevertheless, I would really just like to hear your opinion again. You already gave me an answer about it two years ago, when I asked you whether my calculations are correct, which you affirmed at that time.

Ptaah:
81. Your answer to the question is based on correctness.
82. Nothing else must be said in addition to that.

Billy:
Then here is something else. In June of last year, I received the following from America, which you can look at here. Then, on the whole, I also gave an answer on 6/30/1997.

Ptaah:
83. Your letter in reply is absolutely correct, but it would still be of value to deliver from my side the following explanation:
84. We and other people in your immediate and wider vicinity, in accordance with our own and also your clarifications, are well aware that many of your photos relating to our aircraft and others that are connected to us were maliciously falsified or were even imitated from the ground up and became falsified in this manner.
85. In this regard, not only was that photographer extremely busy, whom you know by the name of Schmid of the Rhine Valley, but also several other people at home and abroad, who were jealous and who still are to this very day.
86. Among the forgeries and falsifications weren’t just the photos that showed our aircraft but also those images that you made on your Great Journey.
87. This is especially true for the dinosaur images as well as for the Apollo-Soyuz images, but also various other images belong with these.
88. Overall, as we’ve determined through detailed investigations, you had made 1,476 photos with your Olympus ECR 35 mm camera, as well as 34 films with your movie camera that you could use with just one hand.
89. Of the photos, several hundred were stolen from you, and moreover, at least which we could clarify, 230 of these were falsified.
90. There was also falsifying through the manipulation of several films, and to be sure, in the way that our aircraft were suddenly represented as though these had been suspended from thin strings or wires, etc., and so, the impression was made that these were models.
91. Concerning the dinosaur images that were addressed in the letter to you, it seems to me, as you mentioned, that something isn’t right, for as I see, the two images aren’t exactly alike.
92. It may be that it is a forgery that has been foisted upon you, like also so many other forgeries, as I already explained.
93. But now, we can no longer investigate what is actually the case, unfortunately, because as you know, Quetzal took all the originals and copies of slides and negatives, etc. from your workroom and eliminated them, so today, we can no longer investigate the concerns in this respect.

Billy:
Quetzal acted, perhaps, somewhat hastily?

Ptaah:
94. I don’t think that was the case, for as it proved itself, it really was necessary.
95. We also should have done the same with various images of our aircraft.
96. A lot of harm would have been avoided through this, especially if we had secured the deceitful forgeries and falsifications produced by the photo and film counterfeiters.
97. But in this connection, we had to comply with our directives, as this was also recommended to us by the High Council.
98. We could and were allowed to intervene directly only in those concerns that stood in a direct relationship with us – and this was just your personal film and photo material.

Billy:
In the esoteric sky and in certain adherent circles, a new concept has formed that is called bioresonance. Do you know something about this?

Ptaah:
99. To lose too many words over that would be senseless because it concerns newly devised nonsense without any reality content.
100. Thus, it isn’t worthwhile to talk about it.

Billy:
Just as well. Then here’s the next question: as you know, I knew the village of Schmidrüti and the farm Hinterschmidrüti as well as Sitzberg, Wila, Turbenthal, and actually all of Tösstal since my early youth, and indeed, starting from the third year of my life. My mother is, indeed, a native of Ägetswil in Wila; consequently, I was already often in Tösstal with my mother and father during my childhood, when we visited my mother’s sister and so on. By the way, at that time, the roads weren’t paved yet, and the railroad still ran the coal locomotive. Then later, in adulthood, when I already had a family, I returned to Tösstal and to Schmidrüti and Hinterschmidrüti as a sales representative. And then, when I gave up my job as a night watchman in 1974, which I had received after a construction phase, on that occasion, I became acquainted with Jacobus, and I successfully operated as a healer in Hinwil, and then, Mrs. Herzog came to me in 1975 from Root, Switzerland, in order to receive treatment from me. She then told me that she and her husband owned a farm in Tösstal, and indeed, Hinterschmidrüti in Schmidrüti. Then, it suddenly fell to me, like scales from the eyes, that yes, Sfath and Asket had previously said that I would establish a "Free Community of Interests" and would then purchase the farm Hinterschmidrüti with the members, in order to build a center for the mission from that. Suddenly, I also saw all the pictures again that one had shown me as to how the center would eventually look. The result was that I then immediately brought into being the “Free Community of Interests” at Wihaldenstrasse 10 in Hinwil, after which everything then arose in such a way as one predicted to me. Now the question about this, and indeed, a question from our group: did you have your fingers in play with Mrs. Herzog’s appearing to me in Hinwil? I mean, did you influence Mrs. Herzog in this regard and then also later with the purchase price?

Ptaah:
101. Sooner or later, this question, indeed, had to be asked:
102. Yes, we had our fingers in play, as you call it.
103. It was already planned since ancient times that things would arise in such a way as they have arisen and are today.
104. However, no compulsions were exercised; rather, only impulses were sent to the persons concerned, according to which they then acted and according to their own will.

Billy:
That’s exactly what we thought. – Here, I now have a calculation for the circle number pi. Guido’s work is the whole thing, as you can surely already tell by the handwriting. The question, now, is whether the calculations agree and, thus, are accurate.

Ptaah:
105. This calculation is very amazing, but the time is still much too early in order to be allowed to make more detailed and more exact statements about that.

Billy:
We’ve already feared this answer, but we just wanted to try.

Ptaah:
106. Of course, I understand, but I really must remain with my statement.
107. If I would go into more detail about that, then I would have to violate our directives, but we don’t do such.

Billy:
Then I have another question, and indeed, in reference to Adolf Hitler, about whom Semjase, your daughter, once said something before. I have here the 36th Contact Report from Monday, the 20th of October, 1975. From this, I’ll read aloud to you what Semjase said, to whom the question was asked: at what place had Dolfy been educated and how did the monitoring of him take place? Then, a further question relates to whether there is a significant destiny for his next incarnation. So now, here’s what Semjase said (Pleiadian/Plejaren Contact Reports, Block 1, page 460):

Semjase
… Adolf Hitler was, in many respects, a genius. His knowledge ranged from a variety of areas of art and technology concerning a variety of sciences up to the use of the power of suggestion. In his internal form, he was an incarnate life form of very good values. Nevertheless, he wasn’t a man of highly developed spirit but rather a man of intellect and reason, who was destined to lead the overall earthly politics and economy as well as all nations in a certain positive direction, in order to create a peaceful, united world and Earth humanity. For this purpose, he was educated and incarnated at his place. He was destined to give a new style to the Earth, through a positive and enforced non-violence, and to initiate new forms of development. This was very strictly controlled and monitored. But ultimately, all efforts were in vain, and he was unable to fulfill his task in the way that it was provided. Through the leaders of the Thule society at that time, as well as through their clairvoyant, Hanussen I, the Giza Intelligences succeeded in taking possession of Adolf Hitler’s being and in misusing him for their dark and malicious purposes, without him being able to defend himself against them, for a delusion-related lust for power flared up inside of him. In addition to this endeavor, still innumerable forces were manipulated in the form of the Earth people who succumbed to the Giza Intelligences in their consciousnesses and who were placed into his closest range, whose influence he also couldn’t oppose. Thus, he was soon compelled to act against his own determinations and to do things that didn’t correspond to his destiny.

At that time, Semjase wasn’t allowed to say more, she explained. But maybe it is different today, such that I might learn something more from you? You once said before that Adolf Hitler also had or just would have had the task of creating a united Earth world.

Ptaah:
108. That was actually so; that is correct.
109. The path that he then took, however, even with terror and war, was absolutely wrong and was neither in his destiny, nor in any guidelines assigned to him, nor even in our interests.
110. The reason for his wrongly chosen path developed quite early on, when he secretly came in contact with the Thule Society of that time, in consequence of which he also came in contact with Hermann Steinschneider, who also belonged to the Thule Society and supported its unfair goals and who called himself the clairvoyant, Eric Jan Hanussen.
111. Steinschneider, i.e. Hanussen, moved in all circles of major Nazi figures, among whom he had many clients, so even also Adolf Hitler, who became enslaved to him, and indeed, even before he seized the leadership for himself.
112. Steinschneider/Hanussen emerged as a middle man between the Thule Society and Hitler, and, so to speak, directed Adolf Hitler according to the Thule Society's leaders' will.
113. The efforts of the leaders at that time of the Thule Society went out for the acquisition of world domination; consequently, already very early on, they allowed Steinschneider to influence and shape Hitler in this direction, by what means this then began, in accordance with their will, with terror and murder, to trigger World War II in the end.
114. At the same time, Steinschneider became ever more powerful in the course of time, with respect to his domination over Adolf Hitler, which didn’t appeal to various people who were against Hitler and his machinations.
115. The consequence of this was that they allowed Steinschneider, alias Hanussen, to be murdered in 1933, but this didn’t change anything in Hitler's attitude and course; therefore, he became more and more of a monster, as you would say.
116. It’s interesting to know that Adolf Hitler was born on 4/20/1889 in Braunau, Upper Austria, and Hermann Steinschneider, alias Eric Jan Hanussen, was born in Vienna, also in the year 1889.
117. Thus, both were Austrians. –
118. What is to be said further in relation to your question is that Adolf Hitler had already been instructed by our forces through telepathic impulses in his earliest youth, in terms of his determinations and guidelines, and indeed, on an ongoing basis and at every place where he always stayed.
119. Thus, he was also under constant control.
120. At the same time, he learned a lot, and everything started off very well, until he went to Vienna to enjoy an artistic education, at which he then failed, however.
121. From that point in time, he rapidly fell more and more toward the negative and evil; consequently, he soon fell outside of our control, and our telepathic impulse attempts remained fruitless.
122. From then on, he not only developed an unhealthy ambition but also an uncontrollable fanaticism as well as a hatred for all life, which he considered from his viewpoint as imperfect.
123. From this, everything that resulted later from his thoughts and actions and that brought million-fold misery across the Earth developed within a short time.

Billy:
And how should it be understood, that he, by force, should give to the Earth a new style and new forms of development? You never told us any more details about it. What must we think of this?

Ptaah:
124. Logical enforced non-violence, which means in this case that he should have taken all humane possibilities into consideration, in order to give weight to his destiny and to fulfill this.
125. However, enforced non-violence, in this sense, means that the necessary changes should be proclaimed and be implemented through weighty decrees, in order to create the goal of world peace and a united Earth world through a truly peaceful mission.
126. Acts of war were never taken into consideration because these are not only unlawful against Creation, inhumane, and destructive but also promoting of hatred and against all reason.
127. Thus, if there was talk of “by force,” then it was only in the sense of the enforced non-violence that should have rested in decrees and regulations that could be implemented peacefully.
128. Nevertheless, Adolf Hitler ignored this and violated this guideline in the worst way; consequently, immeasurable misery and millions of deaths came over the Earth people.

Billy:
And that in no way justified all his knowledge in various things. But what was, basically, the new style of the Earth and the new forms of development that Dolfy should have brought? On the one hand, is world peace simply meant, just by the “new style,” and on the other hand, are technology and medicine as well as consciousness-related development meant by the “new forms of development?”

Ptaah:
129. You see the facts correctly, for it actually concerns these values.

Billy:
Here I once again have a question about the new Gulf crisis, in which the Americans excel, in order to persuade Saddam Hussein to give in, which they do with threats of bombardment, however, which is, in my opinion, perhaps the only language that the dictator understands. Shouldn’t one, nevertheless, agree there with the Americans, in a certain sense?

Ptaah:
130. Saddam Hussein actually preserves inhumane, criminal plans and still secretly strives for a very dangerous – but not nuclear – chemical and biological form of military armament, which should also be uncovered by the enforcement agencies stationed in the country, against which the dictator works vehemently, however.
131. Thus, it must be said that Saddam Hussein and his underground, secret armaments must be stopped.
132. But this isn’t just the responsibility of the Americans but an unavoidable necessity that must be solved in a multinational form and, thus, not in a single-handed effort by the Americans.

Billy:
Thus, the action would be justified if it would be addressed multinationally.

Ptaah:
133. That’s right.
134. Above all, it would also be necessary that the bordering nations contribute their part to it, for these are endangered first and foremost by Saddam Hussein’s desire for power and expansion, so they automatically belong to such a multinational enterprise, as well as the other countries that are adjacent to the bordering nations.

Billy:
Creating such unity is probably only difficult to achieve under all the given circumstances of all the countries of the Earth.?

Ptaah:
135. Indeed, that is, unfortunately, so.

Billy:
Unfortunately – a pity. But now, here’s a somewhat loosening-up question: one approached me in reference to whether I knew anything about the use of make-up by the female gender on Erra. One wanted to know specifically whether lip balming occurs, even with lipstick, as the women and girls do this here on Earth. For my part, I never saw such with your women.

Ptaah:
136. This isn’t common with our female gender in the way that it is with the women on Earth.
137. In general, only a certain part uses subtle make-up from natural materials, while others don’t use these things.
138. The make-up is such that it doesn’t change the naturalness of the skin, so it can hardly be seen, which isn’t the case, unfortunately, with the earthly female gender.
139. But that the lips are coated with colored lipsticks, as the women and girls do so on the Earth, that isn’t the case with us, for we have already considered such actions as nauseating since ages ago.

Billy:
That is, in fact, even how I see it myself. – But does this apply in general?

Ptaah:
140. Nothing else is known to me.

Billy:
The certain part of female people who use make-up, is this predominant?

Ptaah:
141. Unfortunately, that isn’t known to me, but as I estimate, that part should only be small and be more restricted to younger women and girls.

Billy:
With Semjase and Pleija as well as all the others whom I know, one never saw anything with them; at least, I could never find something unusual with them. But let’s leave this, for I still have some questions that are more important. Here, for example: protective shields of spaceships. – As you know, science fiction films are broadcast almost all over the world by all TV stations – even in the cinemas, these are shown – and of course, as a rule, the aliens are always the bad guys who kill the Earth people and who want to destroy the Earth or else want to conquer and colonize it for themselves, which is, of course, pure nonsense. Now, in these films, it is regularly portrayed that the energy shields of the spaceships lose a percentage of strength and protective function each time when energies of any kind hit these. These other, foreign energies are, of course, generally those that are shot, i.e. emitted, from hostile beam weapons of enemy objects. Now, the question is: to what extent can such an energy shield be reconstructed in a decisive time, such that a full protection is given again. There actually are such protective shields, as I know from you; therefore, what is depicted in the films doesn’t just correspond to an unattainable fantasy. And as you once explained to me, our earthly scientists are also working on such protective shields, even though everything still falls under secrecy.

Ptaah:
142. And successes in relation to this could have already been seen – if it didn’t just concern secret projects.
143. But I can answer your question as follows:
144. It all depends on what energy sources are used for a protective shield, in what measures they are used, and how they can be brought to application.
145. As you know very well, energies are not simply energies, but this doesn’t actually have to be explained in detail; therefore, it is only to be said that in general, different technologies for the utilization of protective shields exhibit different forms of energy, from which energy shields can even be generated.
146. The protective shields themselves can also be very different, so they might protect a spaceship or other aircraft, etc. only by sector or even completely.
147. With this, it should be explained that a spaceship, another aircraft, a human, a robot or android, or something else can just be protected by a single, full-scale protective shield or by one that consists of several segments, i.e. sectors.
148. A full-scale protective shield has a main energy source and a reserve energy source, while a segment shield, i.e. sector shield, has its own main energy source and reserve energy source for each sector; thus, the individual sectors are independent of each other.

Billy:
And what form of energy shield is used by you?

Ptaah:
149. We exclusively use comprehensive protective shields, and to be sure, for the spaceships and other aircraft as well as for humans and all things that must be protected in this way.
150. However, our energy shields don’t work in the way as portrayed in your science fiction films, namely that the protective shields are weakened when foreign energies from beam weapons or from cosmic energy fields, i.e. shocks of energy, impact on the shields, by what means these become weakened in their capacity, i.e. performance.
151. This form of protective shield development only represents an initial one, and we already left this phase behind us thousands of years ago.
152. Already more than 40,000 years ago, our technology in this regard experienced such a high development that the protective shields could be perfected and could be put into use, whereby these shields were designed in such a way that any kind of energy that hit them became converted into that which was useful for the shield, which has so remained up to this day.
153. Thus, by impacts of foreign energies of every kind, including, of course, protective shield-conforming energies, the protective shields are neither weakened nor destroyed; rather, they convert the impacting energy immediately and without loss of time into their own energy and, thus, strengthen the power of their own shields.
154. In other words:
155. There occurs, without loss of time, an energy-to-standardization in the protective shield’s energy, whereby this accumulates with each newly added burst of energy of any kind from beam weapons or cosmic energy.
156. This means that the more the energy hits the protective shields, the stronger these become.

Billy:
And it doesn’t matter what form of energy hits the protective shield because it automatically converts all energy hitting it of every kind and makes it useful for itself.

Ptaah:
157. Yes, I said that.

Billy:
Good. – Here I now have a question again that I couldn’t answer. It once again concerns the HAARP project, and the question is whether severe lightning discharges from thunderstorms also don’t cause destructive effects in or through the ionosphere.

Ptaah:
158. Lighting discharges from thunderstorms, of course, also reach up into the ionosphere, whereby the weather conditions and climate conditions are influenced and driven in a decisive form, if I may say so.
159. However, these lightning discharges are basically of a different energetic nature than the energies released by HAARP.
160. The lightning discharges also cause no damage in the ionosphere’s structure and also don’t burn any depressions or funnels – i.e. parabolic, mirror-like bulges – into this, as this happens through the HAARP energies.
161. The lighting discharges stretch up and over a very wide area and meet the ionosphere, so to speak, only “gently,” so no damage arises, while the “hard” HAARP energy is aggressive and also works in such a way; consequently, the ionosphere’s structure becomes damaged by this.
162. Of course, everything relating to this is denied by the authorities and is deliberately represented in a false way, as it is also denied that the whole thing doesn’t just concern a scientific experiment but rather a tremendously dangerous weapon system, with which the weather conditions and climate conditions can be influenced at will and, consequently, can be abused for purposes of war.
163. And these aren’t just conjectures but rather facts, with which the responsible persons have already flirted for a long time and of which they are aware – in complete contrast to their fallacious assertions to the contrary.

Billy:
So in general, no comparisons can be made between natural phenomena, such as thunderstorm-related or in any way nature-related lightning discharges, and the ionosphere-destroying HAARP energies, even though these are very much weaker than the million-fold lightning discharges.

Ptaah:
164. No, no comparisons can be made, because completely different conditions, processes, as well as effects and consequences are given.

Billy:
And the responsible persons are aware of this?

Ptaah:
165. In their megalomania, they overlook important factors in this direction, but even if they were fully aware of this, they would deny the facts, which they already do with all those insights that are known to them.
166. Consequently, they also callously deny the fact that a very large part of the natural disasters that have been taking place for a long time, such as volcanic eruptions, earthquakes, droughts, floods, and the various violent storms, are to be attributed all around the globe to their criminal machinations.
167. This also includes the proliferating phenomenon El Niño, which degenerates more and more through their destructive activities.
168. Although El Niño is a naturally occurring event, through the destructive actions of the scientists and other responsible persons, the whole thing increasingly changes into a destructive and catastrophic factor, whereby the naturally working forces become surpassed and accumulated by the irresponsibly produced, anti-natural and human-generated forces, whereby everything falls outside of the natural, as this is already the case with El Niño.

Billy:
No nice prospects for the future. And all because, as it’s been here since ages ago, the scientists and the responsible persons profiting from it want to play Creation. Moreover, a lot of nonsensical and criminal acts occur; one must just think of the suicide cults that snatch more and more people, bring them over to their side, and drive them into death. In addition, there’s still the so-called esotericism that, raised in a religious and sectarian manner, drives those who’ve succumbed to a belief into pathological delusions. Also included therein is the Fiat Lux sect leader, Uriella, aka Erika Bertschinger (Note: not related to Jacobus Bertschinger), but she is just one of countless people who drive dilapidated enslaved ones into insanity and death. They accomplish this in a number of ways, but there is always something divine, supernatural, angelic, or something holy, etc. behind it that, more closely observed, is nothing but utter nonsense, and as a rule, also horrendous and shameless profiteering lies behind it. And in order to satisfy the greed for profit, it is only natural for these sect leaders that they pull a fast one on their believers, namely that it is for “holy,” “divine,” and “message-receiving purposes,” and so on. Goods, property, and fortune are swindled away, or else alleged cures are sold to the believing, stupid sheep for good money, which are entirely good for nothing and often only contain gruesome substances in water or alcohol, such as human or animal excrement and urine. Even shining water is often imposed on the believers for a lot of money, water that is simply stirred once to the left or to the right or that is “treated” with electromagnetic vibrations, etc. and is allegedly changed somehow. Such water is then usually advertised and traded as "agitated water," which is supposed to help against various diseases or illnesses, etc. or simply improve the functioning of the whole metabolism and so on and so forth. What do you think of this?

Ptaah:
169. The whole thing is, of course, nonsense, which is also to be said with regard to the so-called “agitated water.”
170. Water is, in fact, a very high quality, energy-carrying substance that doesn’t experience a change through stirring or alleged “agitating;” rather, it always remains in its original state or else changes itself back immediately if a change could be made at all.
171. Of course, it is to be said, ordinary water can be changed if certain other substances are added to it, which also applies to certain energies.
172. However, the processes mentioned by you have no influence at all; therefore, only deception lies behind everything.

Billy:
So to speak, an esoteric swindle, one might say, right?

Ptaah:
173. Certainly.

Billy:
A question about the 107000-fold speed of light, which is the actual Creational speed. I let this question be delivered to you by Florena: is it possible that this is only the creative maximum speed in our Universe, while, for example, the Absolute Absolutum has an even higher maximum speed? Actually, this would have to be so, but I can’t say it because I just don’t know, and I don’t want to tap into the memory bank for this.

Ptaah:
174. I, too, had to ask the High Council and the level Arahat Athersata about this, yet helplessness also prevailed there.
175. But then came the acceptance that the highest possible Creational speed known to us is not the actual speed limit but that the Absolute Absolutum exceeds this speed by many times, which was then confirmed by the Petale level.

Billy:
Then I have here a question about genetic manipulation and cloning; what’s going on with these on the Earth?

Ptaah:
176. In secret, there have not only been genetically altered and cloned animals for quite some time but also humans, but this is very wisely concealed.
177. And since the Earth people have no information in this regard, they can make no outcry against it.
178. If, for example, the anti-genetic engineering bawlers and the anti-cloning bawlers knew about the truth, then they would stand at the forefront.
179. They are also the ones who, with their anxiety and superior attitude, disrupt the unstoppable progress and who must be designated as effective evolution-inhibitors.
180. Although the progress isn’t stopped by the anti-propaganda and the nonsensical anti-shouting, it is considerably inhibited; consequently, there will still be evils on the Earth for a long time that could be eliminated within the shortest time by a healthy and correctly controlled genetic engineering technology and cloning technology.

Billy:
This may well be said of the unfortunately necessary animal experiments, against which, in a general form, anti-shouting prevails. Unfortunately, as you yourself once said, certain things can only be carried out and tested on living organisms, which also isn’t any different with you, even though your "animals" aren’t actually such in and of themselves but are only cultivated experimental forms that are quite organic but not really animalic in the sense that it concerns actual animals with psyches and with feelings of pain. Furthermore, you even have the possibility of tests by pure computer programs, as you once explained.

Ptaah:
181. That’s right. –
182. The earthly sciences of medicine and the related researches are not yet so far advanced that they could dispense with animal experiments altogether.
183. Nevertheless, computer programs that are extremely valuable and far advanced already exist for such experiments.
184. But this doesn’t mean that the still necessary animal experiments could already be renounced because, in fact, the earthly computer technology has not yet developed so far that result-bringing, decisive experiments could be made with it.
185. But even when the technology will one day be perfected to the highest, cultivated, living test forms will still be essential, as this is also the case with our relevant medical science researches.
186. But as you correctly said, we do not use live animals but only specially cultivated organisms that have no feelings of pain as well as no psyche and no consciousness, etc.
187. This form of medical research is extremely limited, however, and is only used when we discover life forms on foreign worlds that are unknown to us in every respect and about which we, therefore, still have no medical knowledge.
188. For medical researches of all kinds, however, which concern our Plejaren as well as all Federation worlds and, thus, also all their life forms of all kinds, we no longer depend on cultivating special organisms in order to be able to pursue the necessary researches, for in this respect, our computer programs are fully sufficient.

Billy:
The next question I also sent to you via Florena, after which you told me that you would also have to ask about this. It's about the question of the Absolute Absolutum, whether this isn’t just the only one and whether other ones exist with this. In my view, the Absolute Absolutum is only a tiny pinprick in the Absolute Infinity. I came to this thought because my son Atlantis asked me if the Absolute Absolutum is actually the only one, and I responded to him that this certainly couldn’t be the case. Then, in order to get closer to the bottom of this matter, I pondered about it for days until I had an epiphany, which helped me very much in my acceptance. But now, starting with the Absolute Absolutum: it must be the case that this does not exist in its form alone but that in our seeming nothingness, i.e. non-space, several or even millions and billions or even infinitely many other Absolute Absolutums exist. But this is only possible if the absolute non-space, as we tend to call it without thinking, is nothing other than a development area of much higher forms of the Absolutum. During my reflections, I then came to the notion that these, together with the form of the Absolute Absolutum known to us, must appear sevenfold, whereby the Absolute Absolutum is the lowest form and must be arranged or be embedded into a broader, higher Absolute Absolutum. For want of a better term, I would simply like to call this the Ur-Absolutum or the Ur-Absolute Absolutum. I then came to designate the highest form of the Absolute Absolutum as the actual BEING-Absolute Absolutum. I made a relevant list.

1) Absolute Absolutum
2) Ur-Absolute Absolutum
3) Central-Absolute Absolutum
4) Creation-Absolute Absolutum
5) Super-Absolute Absolutum
6) SOHAR-Absolute Absolutum
7) BEING-Absolute Absolutum

Accordingly, the first impulse for the creation of a Creation Universe should have come from the BEING-Absolute Absolutum an inconceivably long time ago, from which the first Creation Universes developed, and then later, all the other forms of Creation and forms of the Absolute Absolutum continuously developed. Thus, the humanly inconceivable and incalculable length of time since the Ur-ur-ur-beginning of all beginnings is so enormous that it can no longer be grasped in figures or in other terms. Furthermore, I think, fully according to what I accept to have found out, that these seven forms of the Absolute Absolutum are somehow comparable to the seven human spiritual stages of development up to becoming one with the Creation, so for example, in the higher form of development, the Absolute Absolutum represents the lowest and most development-needy stage or level. The SOHAR-Absolute Absolutum, on the other hand, represents the last and highest stage/level, as this embodies the Petale level in the pure, lowest form of Creation. Just as the Petale level embodies the last level to the entrance into Creation, i.e. becoming one with the Creation, this happens in such a way with the SOHAR-Absolute Absolutum, in that it embodies the transition to the union with the BEING-Absolute Absolutum.

Ptaah:
189. Also with this, you asked questions that neither I nor any others of us could answer.
190. Moreover, we ourselves never came across such questions because we had not yet entertained any thoughts in this direction.
191. And I must say that I always wonder at your profound thoughts and cognitions, even though I know your origin and know that you are superior to us in these things.
192. So:
193. I couldn’t provide any information regarding your questions, but in this connection, I likewise had to turn the High Council over to the level Arahat Athersata, which had to strive further with the Petale level for an answer and more details.
194. It is still to be said here that both with us as well as with the level Arahat Athersata, surprise prevailed with respect to your questions.
195. The Petale level also revealed a certain surprise, as one assured me, but she gave an authoritative answer that matches very exactly with your proposal; therefore, no further explanation must be given about it, which I also wouldn’t be in a position to do, as I must confess.
196. Through your questions, I and our scientists attained many new cognitions that help us in our researches.

Billy:
Then, nevertheless, my efforts did have a deeper sense. But I still must think further about very much regarding all this. – Then another question: even the people of your worlds and your federated allies certainly aren’t so perfect in terms of their organs and bodies; therefore, surely health or rather physical injuries can come to light, or am I wrong there?

Ptaah:
197. Our medical knowledge and possibilities are so developed that we no longer know diseases.

Billy:
Of course, I know that; you explained this to me sufficiently. I also don’t mean that some diseases can still appear; rather, I’m coming from the perspective that, for example, there can be accidents and the like, by which health or rather physical injuries can appear.

Ptaah:
198. Now I understand. –
199. Of course – accidents cannot be avoided, for in spite of all precautions of the people, such dismal events can occur over and over again.

Billy:
Good, now we’ve brought it to a common denominator. My question about this is: how is a treatment or an intervention handled when, for example, a surgical intervention becomes necessary? Surgery is, indeed, a very bloody work, I think – is it also still so bloodily maintained with you?

Ptaah:
200. Of course not, because we have long outgrown this bloody barbarism.
201. With this, I naturally don’t want to place the art of surgery of the earthly doctors in disapproval, for they still rely on these bloody methods.
202. Yet also in this relation, a lot will change on the Earth in the future.
203. The beginning of this has already been made. –
204. Now, our technology relating to this is so far developed that we can avoid all bloody interventions.
205. Our apparatuses and devices, etc. are designed in such a way that open surgical interventions no longer have to be made, for all manipulations in or on the body are carried out in a pure, vibration-related manner.
206. Thus, internal or external wounds as well as broken bones and torn blood vessels can be closed, joined, and healed within seconds or a few minutes.

207. The operation of the apparatuses and devices, etc. occurs, of course, through trained doctors and other specialists, including bioorganic, electronic androids, simply said.
208. In addition, these are able to transport themselves to any location within a range of 300,000 kilometers, even there where they are needed.
209. This occurs through a teleportation by apparatus.

Billy:
You mean that they can beam themselves to any location – just like that?

Ptaah:
210. Yes, but that is nothing unusual.

Billy:
For us earthlings, it is. – Then these androids are true doctors?

Ptaah:
211. Certainly.

Billy:
With you, is anything also operated within the framework, as here on Earth with the so-called spiritual healing?

Ptaah:
212. No.

213. In addition, I must also say that what is operated under this designation by many people on Earth must be referred to as charlatanism.

214. Of course, exceptions are given, but these are based on suggestion and self-healing.

Billy:
That should be well-known, yes. Here I now have a question in reference to the navigation technology of your spaceships and other missiles or robots and machines, etc. Everything is equipped with feeling-circuits, which work just like futuristic armatures and switchgears. It only very rarely happens, however, that you carry out any manipulations with these, even though everything is geared toward the fact that, absolutely, a manual operation can take place. As you’ve explained to me but also often demonstrated, all navigation manipulations occur through pure thought impulses.

Ptaah:
215. That’s right.

Billy:
You explained to me that with you, no spaceship technology or other missile technology exists that isn’t navigated by thought impulses, even though everything also always allows a manual navigation.

Ptaah:
216. As I already said, that’s right.

Billy:
Of course, that’s not what I want to get out of it; rather, the question relates to whether on the Earth, such navigation possibilities are already being worked on. Unfortunately, I had to ask the question somewhat in detail for the better understanding of the later readers of this report.

Ptaah:
217. Both in the earthly aerospace technology and automotive technology, it is being worked on very strictly in this direction, and indeed, with very good successes, and these are, of course, still very far removed from our achievements.
218. In this regard, the first successes of the earthly scientists may, nevertheless, be seen.

Billy:
And – where is this technology being worked on?

Ptaah:
219. I already said that - in the aerospace and automotive technology, of course also in the weapons technology and robotics technology, etc.

Billy:
With WHERE, I actually meant specific locations.

Ptaah:
220. That partially falls under military secrecy, so in accordance with our directives, I may not specify.

Billy:
I nearly imagined such a thing; thus, you did correctly understand my question and just answered evasively.

Ptaah:
221. Since you explained that you regard our conversation as an official contact conversation, I had to do that.

Billy:
Of course, I also make no reproach against you. Then here again is a question about the health of the people on Erra and your other worlds. Although you have already answered this question for me once, it wasn’t held in writing. Moreover, it is also answered with the fact that there are no longer diseases with you. But still, various people would like to be able to read your answer. So: on Erra or with your people in general, is there still blindness, deafness, disability, and muteness, etc.?

Ptaah:
222. No, all these evils, together with all diseases and infirmities, have no longer appeared for many millennia, which is also connected with our prenatal investigations and necessary medical measures, which are based in the creative law, that each newborn life has an absolute right to consciousness-related and physical intactness.

Billy:
My next question: Yeti, Big Foot, and Sasquatch, these are three beings of which there is talk over and over again. For quite some time, there has particularly been talk again about the Sasquatch-being in Florida’s swamps in the Everglades. Again and again, people appear in public, who claim that they would have observed such prehistoric human beings. Can one believe these statements?

Ptaah:
223. Some statements are actually true, others are based on deceit, and still others are based on making oneself important or on simple fibbing.
224. Nevertheless, there is no doubt that these beings still actually exist.

Billy:
You’ve clarified this?

Ptaah:
225. It wouldn’t be right to say that there is no doubt in the existence of the beings if we didn’t have exact knowledge in this regard.

Billy:
Of course not. – Now a question about domestic animals: with you, it isn’t custom and, thus, also isn't common that animals are kept in the human living spaces, such as dogs, cats, birds, snakes, crocodiles, fish, ferrets, tame mice and rats, rabbits, and guinea pigs, as well as hamsters and so on and so forth, which you’ve already often explained. However, here on the Earth, it is quite common, and particularly the meat-eating pets, like even dogs and cats primarily, should be predominant and the weightiest. All these animals, which are usually only kept for joy or amusement, etc., eat enormous mountains of food each year. One just thinks of the meat that is consumed worldwide by these house dogs and house cats. It’s really a shame when one considers that each year – for these house critters that are actually useless and also illness-spreading – many millions of cows, horses, rabbits, pigs, and other animals, like also fowls of all kinds, are slaughtered. Is this actually answerable?

Ptaah:
226. No – quite decidedly not.
227. The whole behavior in this regard isn’t just criminal but also inhumane.
228. And this applies both to the keeping of house pets as well as to the form of food procurement for these animals.

Billy:
Good, that should be clear. Then here’s the next question: the Moon’s distance from the Earth and the Moon’s orbit, are both actually stable?

Ptaah:
229. No, both are not the case.

230. Neither the Moon’ orbit nor the Moon’s distance is stable because the Moon drifts several centimeters a year off into space, so one day, though still in the distant future, it will free itself from its orbit and shoot out into free space.

231. Through its drifting away, the natural conditions and climate conditions on Earth, as well as the living conditions of all earthly life forms, change.

Billy:
Then probably also the tides of the oceans will necessarily change because these are, indeed, dependent on the gravity of the Moon.

Ptaah:
232. Of course.

Billy:
Here I have a note: the highest speed = infinite speed = negative speed = the goal is reached before the sent forth impulse is completed. Is this true?

Ptaah:
233. Your reasoning is correct, but we should not yet talk about that officially.

Billy:
Good. – Can you tell me where the term oath or vow came from and what the original word means?

Ptaah:
234. That is no secret:
235. The term “oath” [“Eid”] that is valid in the German language, which is more common today in the form of “vow” [“Schwur”], is of ancient Lyran origin and was originally “Eit.”
236. In this form, it was also transferred into the Celtic language, then to be received into their related languages.
237. The term wasn’t expressed in the same way as today but as “Ejt.”
238. The concept of the word is: final, insoluble.

Billy:
Again something regarding diseases, such as cancer, Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, etc.: can one assume that these are, in principle, actually genetically conditioned and that this is also true for immune-instability and autoimmune diseases?

Ptaah:
239. In principle, yes.

Billy:
You promised to tell me the size of Comet Hale-Bopp once you’ve measured this.

Ptaah:
240. The comet has an oval shape and measures 38,432 meters in its extreme length and 36,781 meters in its width, in rough measures.

Billy:
So not to the exact centimeter.

Ptaah:
241. No.

Billy:
You surely know what all happened on the Earth in connection with this comet, with which I mean the sectarian machinations, through which mass suicides occurred in bulk, like with the suicide cult of the American guru Applewhite.

Ptaah:
242. Yes, these sad events are familiar to me.
243. On the one hand, they are connected with the appearance of the comet and, on the other hand, with the end of the world fantasies and delusional ideas that allow many confused people to forget all reason.
244. And the many sectarian preachers of salvation will also contribute to this in this deadly form in the future because the Christian turn of the millennium, which is supposed to come but which has truly already been exceeded, incites all those who are confused to continue to believe in the saviors of extraterrestrial origin, who will allegedly fetch the chosen ones among the faithful sectarians of the Earth into spaceships, in order to save them before the end of the world.
245. And since these allegedly extraterrestrial saviors should be of a “spiritual” nature and should be beings of light, etc., whom one should only be able to approach as a “spiritual” form, the slogan applies that the human must rid himself of his material body through suicide, so that his spirit form or soul can be taken up by the alleged luminous saviors into their spaceships.
246. This is actually the basic, sick thought of the cult leaders and their followers.

Billy:
That is certainly so. And that the cults and their believers increase more and more in this respect, this proves itself every day. Just think of the Solar Templars, who already organized a mass suicide twice among their members.

Ptaah:
247. And many suicides were committed and continue to be committed by individuals, of whom it isn’t known that they deprived themselves or robbed themselves of their lives for the same reasons.
248. The number of such people is very large, but they usually take their secrets to the grave.

Billy:
And unfortunately, this insanity and mental deficiency will still increase.

Ptaah:
249. That will, with certainty, be so.

Billy:
Look, here I have some newspaper clippings that I collected regarding the Hale-Bopp suicide drama in the USA, if you want to see them?

Ptaah:
250. Thanks, I would gladly like to look at them briefly…
251. These are really very terrible and unfortunate events, and as I already said, such will still increase.

Billy:
My thoughts now turn again to the Absolute Absolutums, as I simply named these according to my own terms. Nevertheless, this naming surely doesn’t apply, but you haven’t corrected me in this connection.

Ptaah:
252. There was no reason for a correction because as I was informed, you are free to name the different levels according to your understanding.
253. The reason for this, as one explained to me, is because on the one hand, your names are appropriate for the different forms of the Absolute Absolutum, in relation to the existence and effective facts, and on the other hand, with this, you can explain everything related to the teaching in your own terms.
254. Thus, you can retain the names in the way that you’ve just made and created them.

Billy:
That should be fine for me because I’ve actually had such deep thoughts about everything and, thus, have also connected the various terms with certain effects and existences, which I can now pursue further, since I know that my acceptances correspond to reality. Here, however, I have to ask something else: solariums: a lot of advertising is constantly made about the solarium business, and it is maintained that the use of solariums is healthy and harmless. You and Quetzal, however, once said something else. What must one now actually think of solariums or of letting oneself be irradiated?

Ptaah:
255. The assertion that the use of solariums and letting oneself be irradiated are healthy and safe is not only wrong but also life-threatening, even if this seems implausible to the Earth people on the first impression.
256. Solariums produce increased UV-A rays that, on the one hand, make one addicted and, therefore, dependent and, on the other hand, penetrate deep into the skin and into the body, making this and the organs damaged from within with a lasting effect and causing internal tumors, etc., such as, above all, cancer.
257. However, the likewise active UV-B rays, as these are also released by the Sun’s rays, work in another way and are limited in their effect to the outer layers of skin, on and in which they cause sunburn and skin cancer.

Billy:
But unfortunately, all this is not yet understood by the earthlings.

Ptaah:
258. At least a very large part of the Earth people is actually inconvincible in this respect, which is why very many must experience and get to know the effective evils of the solar radiation and solarium radiation on their own bodies and often pay for it with their own lives.

Billy:
A very unfortunate and true statement. In addition, there are still other things on Earth and among the people that are very unfortunate. When I think, for example, of the last environmental conference that, so I think, took place in Japan, it can blow my top off. As usual, there was just a lot of chattering and nothing worth mentioning was achieved. Not to mention the implementation of decided matters, for in this regard, there is usually just a bunch of big words. It’s just important that all the conference participants eat and drink well and can spend nice vacation days – and that’s it then. And if some countries want to decide something useful or even do so at all, then several others are against it and are only willing to continue to destroy the Earth and its environment as well as the possibilities of life for human and animal as well as plant life, etc. With regard to environmental protection, conservation of nature, and the protection of animals and humans, they hold purely nothing at all. And in this connection, at the head of all this, like in so many other bad and negative things, are the Americans, who appeared at this conference as completely unreasonable, negative, and destructive once again and who refused every assent to the positive.

Ptaah:
259. Not only in this regard but also in many other things, America is an irresponsible and autocratic nation that, as you often say, walks over dead bodies, and this taken literally.
260. Only to be regretted are all those American citizens who have a healthy way of thinking and who live without all the criminal and felonious activities and works and who want to protect life, but who are shouted down and trampled underfoot by the predominant, negatively thinking mass.

Billy:
Although all of this also occurs in other countries, America is a solitary point in this respect among the would-be civilized countries. And of actual civilization, not much is to be noted and seen in this country. I just always regret those Americans who would gladly like to live a just life and who always fight unsuccessfully for what can be observed very especially in each case with the anti-death penalty campaigns. Of course, just in relation to the death penalty, China is a solitary point, but one can not yet designate this country, i.e. its legislation, as civilized, that it could be compared to other countries and legislations. In contrast, one would have to expect a lot more from America, but unfortunately, that is not the case.

Ptaah:
261. Regarding this country and a large part of its population, we simply can’t get around taking up negative aspects again and again and, unfortunately, having to talk about such.
262. This is just the nature of the thing because America is the actual and, up to now, still undisputed world power, which allows itself things that are inhumane, unjust, and unlawful, such that it can only be described as wicked, rebellious, insolent, arbitrary, violent, evil, unprincipled, criminal, human-despising and life-despising, so therefore, the negatives are mostly heard and denounced.
263. In fact, the majority of the whole country isn’t a human being-worthy and humane type of life.

Billy:
That is clear. But now again to something else: You call me the Prophet of the New Time, as this is also already written in the Talmud Jmmanuel. For what length of time should this designation be valid?

Ptaah:
264. You should actually know that better than me.

Billy:
Of course, I know from when to when the New Time is calculated, namely from the year 1844 to the year 3999, so for a duration of 2,155 years. However, this isn’t about my conformation but rather yours, for someone asked this question specifically in the way that I should ask you, so that you give an answer that should then be written in the Contact Report.

Ptaah:
265. I understand.
266. It is illogical, to be sure, because your word is much more authoritative than mine in these and many other interests.
267. But in order not to cause disappointment, I just want to and can confirm your explanation:
268. The New Time begins with the year 1844 and ends with the year 3999.

Billy:
And in this respect, this must be calculated in accordance with the existing, wrong post-Christian calendar. In truth, the New Time begins, using the right Christian Era, with a threefold value, and thus, in the year 1839. But because the wrong Christian time calculations have been valid here since time immemorial, everything is determined, calculated, and arranged in accordance with these.

Ptaah:
269. With which you, of course, also rectify these interests.

Billy:
Once again, something about Yetis, Big Foots, and Sasquatches. For Sasquatch and Big Foot, there is also the designation Gigantopithecus. Also the name Alma Kopta, etc. is common, like also for the Yeti, which is also called Meto Karmi. The question now is whether these are animals or even, as I said about twenty minutes ago, original or early human life forms that survived in different places of the Earth?

Ptaah:
270. Your designation was right; these beings aren’t animals but rather early human life forms, as we already explained to you before.

Billy:
Of course. The question should, indeed, only serve to ensure that the answer is held in writing once. – Concerning the prophecies, namely those which I’ve presented in my book "From the Depths of Space…" regarding the interlinking of human nerve cells with computer controls, etc., is something already underway in this connection on the Earth – I mean, is it already applied in this direction?

Ptaah:
271. Certainly, and indeed, in several countries.
272. Particularly the Japanese and the Max Planck Institute in Germany have made considerable progress in this connection and have registered determining successes.
273. But America and other nations also work with success in the same direction.
274. For the time being, the tests and the test subjects are primarily restricted to insects, etc., like to various species of the Blattaria.

Billy:
Commonly known as the black beetle or cockroach.

Ptaah:
275. Right.

Billy:
And, the scientists are content with that?

Ptaah:
276. Of course not, for tests are already being carried out on various other animal species.

Billy:
I, indeed, thought so myself. – The late Vitamin C Pope, Linus Pauling, is supposed to have said, so one wrote to me, that humans had – in former times, so still thousands of years ago – possessed the ability to produce their bodies’ own vitamin C. Quetzal also said this once. Is this actually true?

Ptaah:
277. Your question is illogical, since a question relating to this was, in fact, already answered for you by Quetzal, as you say yourself.

Billy:
This question is also asked so that the answer is readable in the Contact Report for all interested parties.

Ptaah:
278. I understand.
279. Yes, it is correct:
280. The Earth human beings had the ability to produce their bodies’ own vitamin C.
281. However, through de-evolutionary circumstances affecting their bodies, this ability was gradually lost; consequently, in the bodies of modern humans, only minute traces of this vitamin are produced; although, 14 milligrams per 1 kilogram of body weight are needed each day.
282. Since this production is largely absent, however, the necessary amount of vitamin C must be supplied to the body from the outside.
283. Normally, this would have to happen via food, which is now no longer possible, however, due to the overall change in the food, including the fruits and vegetables, which is why artificial vitamin C must be consulted.

Billy:
Many doctors and vitamin opponents, etc. deny this, however.

Ptaah:
284. They are all completely delusional and cause a lot of harm with it.

Billy:
I know, since I follow your instructions with the multi-vitamins, trace elements, and minerals and take the daily minimum of 14 milligrams of vitamin C per kilogram of body weight, and since then, it has been getting better with my health, and indeed, quite immensely, so I can now actually no longer complain about a lack of health. But here I now have, for the time being, the last question, which refers to the Aztecs. So much is spoken and written of them, and in many things, I hear the exact opposite of what Semjase and Quetzal explained to me. In particular, the human sacrifices among the Aztecs as well as the Mayas and Incas are denied again and again. It is amazing that this assertion holds so persistently – that they shouldn’t have offered human sacrifices.

Ptaah:
285. These kinds of assertions contradict every reality because all these peoples carried out human sacrifices, and indeed, both in a religious as well as punishment-exercising sense.

Billy:
The Mayas were an advanced Indian cultural people in Central America; however, they also weren’t assessed very humanely. The Incas were an Indian aristocracy and ruling class in Peru, who even carried out cruel child sacrifices, and the Aztecs were an Indian tribe in Mexico, who also sacrificed humans, if I’m not mistaken.
286. You are not mistaken.

Billy:
Ptaah, how does it happen, however, that these human sacrifices are denied over and over again – is there a plausible explanation for it?

Ptaah:
287. The reason is probably to be found in the fact that so far, there still isn’t any concrete evidence of human sacrifices among these people, that is, such has not yet been found, but this will still arise in the foreseeable future with certainty.
288. The present lack of evidence says nothing at all, for human sacrifices did, in fact, take place.
289. Findings and signs that suggest that human sacrifices took place are, so far, only unsatisfactory, but they are actually there.
290. Connections also exist that arose by intruders who invaded the peoples mentioned and carried out human sacrifices, but this in no way excludes the self-conducted human sacrifices of the peoples mentioned.

Billy:
With that, I’ve actually asked all questions and received answers, so we can now move on to the private part of our conversation, if you still have some time

Ptaah:
291. Already at the beginning of our conversation, I said that today, I have a little more time available than what is otherwise the case.

Billy:
Then I would still just like to confront you with five purely private questions, which I submitted to Florena regarding some group members and, thus, laid on you.

Ptaah:
292. Of course, but the relevant answers aren’t very extensive because the time has become somewhat tight for me.

Billy:
So you know what questions I mean

Ptaah:
293. Of course.

Billy:
Good, non-extensive answers are also sufficient for me, I think. Moreover, the questions also aren’t such that they would require an extensive answer.

Ptaah:
294. So then…

Billy:
One moment, one more question: one has asked me, by what means schizophrenia originates, concerning which I knew no answer. Can you briefly tell me what I should answer

Ptaah:
295. Schizophrenia is an illness of an overproduction of the substance dopamine in the brain, by which this is overloaded and damaged by the substance.
296. The increased, harmful appearance of dopamine is often genetically conditioned, which also means that the illness is hereditary.
297. However, it is otherwise possible that an overproduction of dopamine is produced, for example, by drugs and alcohol, as well as by certain medicines that cause brain damage.
298. With heredity, not every descendant and not every generation must succumb to this illness because several generations can remain spared from the appearance of the illness before a flaring up of the same takes place again.
299. The genetic material, however, is transferred in every case; it’s just that it is occasionally of a latent nature.

Billy:
Thanks, that’s probably sufficient. Then we can now turn to the other things.
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